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Make Grandma Smile (Senior Engagement)

Make Grandma Smile  Engagement & Activities

00:00:00 – 00:05:01

(Intro)

Looking for ways to have better visits with my mom is the genesis of the Fading Memories podcast. After two and a half years I’ve learned a lot more about engagement by learning how to give seniors a purpose and find things they enjoy. We go a long way into having more meaningful visits, my guest today, Jason Heidel, is an entertainer who also works in senior care. His grassroots company Make Grandma Smile is focused on engagement therapy. They are looking for a way to standardize the engagement and behavioral health side of elder care by bringing an entertainment and participation component to care home activities. Jason has found a way to have more meaningful engagement. This is a special episode because after talking to Jason, we actually participate in one of his activities. 

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(Jennifer)

Welcome, to fading memories a supportive podcast for those caring for a loved one with memory loss. Before, we get into the fun and fascinated episode with Jason I have a quick request. Pop on over to the website, hot link in the show notes, and sign up for the email newsletter. We’re going to be sending out advance notices of episodes and anything exciting happening and now onto the show. 

I’m talking to Jason Hiedel, the founder of MakeGrandmaSmile.com. They are a culture focused engagement therapy and technology company looking to standardize the engagement and behavioral health side of senior care. They just held their first aging and  Alzheimer’s telethon which was full of music, games, and interactive lifestyle classes. So thanks for joining me Jason. 

(Jason)

Thanks for having me. Yeah. It’s you’re my first interview after the big event so…

(Jeniffer)

 Well, it hasn’t been too long and yesterday you guys had some pretty nasty weather.

(Jason)

 So yeah, tornadoes – I remember being like eight and having to hide in the bathroom because there was one nearby and you know how terrifying that can be, yesterday my eighteen month old just thought was a visit to the basement because he doesn’t get to go down there often some very excited, very experience for him.

(Jennifer)

 I believe that. I’m in northern California so  I’m not familiar with tornados at all. 

(Jason)

No, but you got earthquakes right? 

(Jennifer)

 And I’ve lived here my entire life, I’m a multi generational Californian. So in nineteen eighty nine and that was thirty one years ago nearly Loma Prieta happened. I was completely clueless as to what was going on, I was driving my car, been married a month and all of a sudden it was like what’s going on here? I think I have a flat tire better pull into the gas station. I get to the gas station and check all the tires and everything seems fine. Okay, I don’t know what’s going on. Okay, get back in the car, drive a block or two – the radio station cuts out and I’m like what the hell. Like I’ve been married a month and now the car is about to blow up. And it was only two years old, a two year old Honda Civic. 

(Jason)

Yea those things never die.You know it’s weird because we were just at the telephone and and really like people know like you can go watch the telephone live on our facebook. But honestly, the reason we did that was we have a lot of talented friends who are really hard to pin down all at once but if you pick a date and make an event. They tend to show up. So we did it as a way to kind of create these mini vignettes of why we’re doing this because for so long we’ve put out content saying why but it’s not been from us. It’s been from our vision and like creating you know media content and so we wanted to really present. We had a live event plan for outside and three days before the event the town changed the amount of people who could come to an outside event to fifty including staff, and there were twenty five team members they’re helping put on the telethon.

 Twenty five people outside, we did get to capacity, but it became a focus for us just to kind of really from our mouth say why we’re doing what we’re doing with Make Grandma Smile and ultimately with  Alzheimer’s and aging. And how technology is greatly going to affect that in the next five to ten years, and so you know one of the segments did was Make Grandpa Smile ’cause we own MakeGrandpaSmile.com too and so our goal for the Make Grandpa Smile mission is that there is not a lot of content driven towards the male dealing with aging and Alzheimer’s you’re just isn’t there. There’s stuff that you can find, but there’s not there’s not stuff.

00:05:01 – 00:10:03

That’s just made for that, you know. And so we are partnering with a few different car groups and journalism groups to create a Make Grandpa Smile content like page, and what it’s going to be is all is different continents already being made by creatives all over the country in one place.Like cool cars of yesteryear and then cool cars of today. A lot of people say that senior citizens don’t care about twenty twenty and I beg to differ considering I had you know twenty or thirty residents showing up for how to use my iphone classes at senior communities. So like the people we’re dealing with now are very different from who we were dealing with maybe five or ten years ago. I told you but like my grandmother would not touch the television and change it from the live feed of the lobby of her apartment building because it required two remotes. And that was just one too many and like that is not who we’re dealing with anymore. So I wanted to show them the hot wheels cars that are gonna be our cars that we buy when we’re sixty five and having a mid life crisis. And like I want to show them the Audis, the Impalas, and the with the really tricked out whatever because you know for me the idea that Alzheimer’s is just an old person thing is “A”wrong. “B” also, -hi I’m sorry I got a dog here –  you know we’re going to be there if we’re lucky, you know we’re going to have that similar experience. And what’s gonna be important is the stuff that I have for me that are important to me is going to be important that people who work at those communities understand that even it seems old to them. And so for me, it’s like how do I take things that you and I probably already watched like all those A and E channel shows and like TLC channel shows about cars being flipped and houses being flipped and interior decorating and turning antiques into cool new things. That’s going to be what we wanna do when we live in these buildings and so the telethon was a way to say what the senior community of the future is gonna look like and how can we start building that today. 

(Jennifer)

Makes sense. I’m thinking like well,  actually I like a lot of analog stuff . I make handmade greeting cards.

(Jason)

Cool! Do you use a Cricket?

(Jennifer)

It’s not a cricket, but it is something similar. 

(Jason)

So you’re not sitting there with a scalpel the whole time?

(Jennifer)

 No, I have a machine that punches stuff out. 

(Jason)

No, like that’s the difference, right? Like ’cause like our grandparents would have made hand cars but they would’ve cut everything out by hand and so like I have residents that I’ve worked with that know how to use a Cricket. If I turned them into an army of a get well card makers for all the residents who don’t have families and are at the hospital and just need a little encouragement. Or even residents than don’t, like if you’re running a senior community and I know people that you tend to talk to more like the loved ones taking care of them, like if you had a senior community that needed outreach into the community-  into the residents of the community that don’t live there, having your own team of seniors. You could make awesome handmade cards. And say come join us and make cool things, that’s such a great sales tool when you’re talking about people who take care of their loved ones at home. Having a senior know how to use technology is just like having know how to use a power tool, just like having know how to crochet.It where ever their experience lies right and so we always talk about care plans and meeting residents where they are. I worked with like people of industry,  I worked with a guy who was the accountant for Warren Buffet.These are not dumb guys. These are not dumb girls. These are women and men who lived lives, and now are at the point in their life where they should be able to just enjoy it and so for me, it’s like, how can I make your passion for math again a thing?How can I make your passion for photography a thing? Thirty to forty to fifty years, I’m gonna assume it’s fifty for you, when you’re living in a senior community.And you are wanting to be the one at the event taking photos I hope to God that there’s someone like me that’s like I’m going to get her a nice camera. I’m gonna make sure she knows how to do it and I’m gonna let her be the photographer. And I might only ever get pictures of feet but but if you are happy, I’ve done my job. You know that’s truly what I’m trying to do here. 

(Jennifer)

Well you make me curious as to what cameras fifty years from now will look like. 

(Jason)

Right! They’re going to be this big. 

(Jennifer)

Well I have one that big, it’s called a GoPro. I have an iphone eleven pro max whatever…

(Jason)

My little brother just got one, they’re nuts! They have like eleven cameras. 

(Jennifer)

The cameras are awesome. You still need somebody like me that knows lighting and posing and 

00:10:03 – 00:15:00

stuff but you know I’m almost tempted to try some shots with my phone in a portrait session. Which I have one coming up so I might actually do that. So, how did Make Grandma Smile come about? 

(Jason)

Well the official story is me and my business partner, Garrett, met in the liquor aisle at Jewel.That’s a grocery store. He was wearing a lab coat and looked like Jesus. I was talking loudly on the phone trying to not draw attention to myself  while trying to read the back of his lab coat when I couldn’t read it. I walked up to him and I said Garrett – I didn’t say Garrett, I didnt know him. That’d be weird- I walked up to him and was like I don’t mean to bug you, but what do you do? He says, I teach science to children. I said,  would you want to teach science to senior citizens too? He goes, yes I would. And that’s it and like here we are three years later, I’ve been doing the senior care thing for about nine years ,going on ten. I started out as an entertainer and I just noticed that when I came people who I was told would not come out and I was told would not participate and I was told would not remember me. I did all three every time. And not like they didn’t say Jason maybe necessarily but they knew me and  there’s a difference in memory and emotional memory. And when you’re dealing with Alzheimer’s or talking about emotions, so for me, that’s the most important because that’s what I do as an entertainer. I’m an entertainer first, I started out in the random like improv community and stand up comedy and and doing little side gigs here, and there playing acoustic guitar. I was a worship leader and I’ve done youth ministry stuff and so music’s always been a big part of my life. I was lucky enough to go to schools where music was a huge piece of the curriculum and not just seen as like an afterthought. 

And I had teachers who saw talent in me and helped me grow it and you know I think for me the biggest thing that really stuck for why Make Grandma Smile needed to exist was I kept finding more and more residents that didn’t want to watch the show. They wanted to be a part of it. And I know that feeling, I know that feeling of being in an audience and being like, what am I doing here I am on the wrong side of this. And so I had to think like how do you become a performer if you’ve never performed. Well its education. So then all of a sudden, the Montessori model started popping up right as I figured this out. Okay cool and I know it’s been around for a while but like it really started catching steam there and I’m like well I’m on the right track. So I’m gonna keep going with this and then I kept figuring out that that my programs were something that no one  else was doing even in the community. It’s like the stuff I was doing wasn’t hard but because of the way I was presenting it because of the way I package it, I was getting hired to do things that normal activity directors would normally do but couldn’t or at least couldn’t do the level that will keep the the residents engaged as long. Because to them, they’re an employee and to me I’m the main event right and so how do you create that main event feel all the time and at the same time empower the people working at the communities to be like experts without needing to be experts. And so this kept coming to me and and one of the things that that I think was a pivotal moment for me in understanding why education for seniors was so important was because well, it’s really two moments. I saw at a Ted talk with a Dr who put a high speed Internet computer in the middle of a third world country. Completely weatherproof it and just left; solar-powered ran itself, but didn’t show anyone how to do it.And then a little four year old girl walks up and starts to learn how the mouse pad works and that if you put your finger here something on the screen. And they kind of put two and two together and then she showed her older brother. 

And he put a Webcam so he could see who was using it. And the older brother comes up and figures out you can click and they’re clicking on things and their hearing noises from the computer and now years later they’re streaming all over the world. That doing all these amazing things and and all I heard in this whole thing, he ends the whole thing with me will learn what we want to learn. So, how do we make the things that we hate to do but we know are the things for a balanced life like eating well, sleeping, exercising,  socialization, spirituality,asking questions, and educating ourselves. Growing as people mentally,morally, and physically how do we make that fun? And make it something we want to do and I had a guy who I worked with for a while that changed my mind on performance, that was always saying if it makes the audience smile it’s worth doing even if it’s at your expense. And I kinda just owned that and made it about if it makes people smile it is worth doing and my goal is to make you smile and make grandma smile and make grandpa smile. And so that’s where the name came from and at first people didn’t know what to do with it now like.

00:15:01 – 00:20:02

You know now you hear that name and tell me you don’t wanna know more you know. That’s the point I want awareness. I want the fact that there are five point five million Americans with Alzheimer’s in America right now and the two point two million of them are met. You know like all of that stuff I said the people and I am shocked who doesn’t know that because we all know someone who knows someone who has a grandma or a grandpa or a father or mother or someone who had dementia or Alzheimer’s. And yet we still don’t seem to really know how to peg it, I  still see people treated like  the word senile you know. That’s what we used to call them, like no it is a very neurological cognitive behavioral thing happening chemical even and we can do things about it today. And so the more and more I studied the more and more I went through dementia practitioner training, and it just came to me that at the at the end of the day, there’s more room in this industry for people like me. And I need to be able to show artists, show creatives, and show educators that these people are not people who are done living life if we just given something worth learning. 

(Jennifer)

I agree! My mom’s community, they did a lot of Bingo, coloring, they’d bounce the balloon around with each other and I was always surprised. My mom didn’t participate in the coloring. She would occasionally do the Bingo and then I was always surprised we did the balloon bouncing thing and that really surprised me. I always went on Mondays. And I show up and I’m like uh where’s my mother and they’re like oh she’s on the bus I guess they drove around town and what the heck they did ’cause her visual processing was so bad that you could be like Oh look at the pretty cloud in the sky. And she’d be like where uh what and or whatever. What her eyes saw, her brain didn’t see and it was really challenging. So I was really surprised that they said she goes on the bus every week and I’m like, oh okay. But normally they’ve gone on Wednesdays, and for whatever reason they switched up that week and they just forgot to tell me.

They came back within about twenty or thirty minutes so I just waited and it was unique but you were talking about how when you would show up in the communities they would remember you. Last september I showed up on a Monday to visit my mom and she looked at me and she goes, oh where are we going and I was like – well first ogg i felt guilty because I had just gotten home from a trip at like two oclock in the morning.And I was tired and I’m like I don’t want to take her out because I was afraid that my lack of energy would translate into something negative and then we’d have an issue, and so I felt really guilty that we weren’t going out that day and I was really surprised. I’m like, wow after you know a couple years, she recognizes me as the person who takes her out to do fun things. We’d always go watch kids play in the park or we’d go get a snack or something, but usually we watched kids that’s what she liked to do. And you know it gave me  a few minutes to just kinda relax and watch the clouds go by or just put my head back and take some deep breaths. That was always useful so that was that’s what we did,so like I said, I can understand how when you said that they recognized you. It was because you were giving them that positive feeling.

(Jason)

 Right and it’s interesting because like you know it’s really nice to hear you say things like I was worried that my emotional place would cause them emotional stress. So often these support groups that I read I see the words how do you deal with your loved one. And it’s like you’re not dealing ,they are dealing, you are protecting, making sure they’re safe,and making sure they’re happy and making sure that they are dealing better. And I get it. It’s hard and I know that not everybody’s loved one was a loved one growing up and for those cases like that’s deeper than my pay grade will allow me to speak. But when it comes down to the ones who are are at a loss, not because of bad blood between family or anything but because their mother or father is not who they were before. The thing that strikes me the most is healthcare professionals don’t seem to give you any advice on how to cope with this as the family member. That is a missing piece and I cannot believe that we’re just like good luck with something you know you’re going to lose.  Don’t me wrong like Alzheimer’s is bad but living with it doesn’t have to be. You can make the most out of it and you can make lemonade and it’s and it’s not hard. I mean you just listed a few things, the balloons, right the Bingo, the coloring.

00:20:02 – 00:25:02

Now, there’s gonna be Studies out there that say Bingo causes stress, and so it shouldn’t be done in senior communities anymore and to be fair for some residents with cognitive impairments it can be. But it’s more than that like we’ve come up with what a standardized and community activity program looks like and I’ll just lay it out for you and not every place runs this but there are many. That are cookie cutter and if you go into this is what you see; it is Bingo, it is coloring, it is playing old movies on television in black and white when most of our residents are now from the sixties. And no things fifties and sixties no things from the rock and roll era. No things from the Beatles and no things past Frank Sinatra right. The activities staff is one to two people, maybe three, and they’re doing things with thirty to forty people at a time and having a group of twenty around one table doing nails, and that’s the activity for the morning is nails because you only have one staff member.

 So you can’t entertain and also do nails, and then on top of it, you are left with a minimal supply budget. So everything you’re doing is a coloring sheet or simple watercolors, donated crafts, donated odds and ends that you turn into crafts. Playing little games you read out of a binder and like that’s it,  like it is a clinical way you care behaviorally. The issue is that the Maslow’s hierarchy is upside down when it comes to behavioral care. It is the body first and then everything else. But when activities approaches a problem or a behavior or resident who needs more purpose, needs more engagement in their life. We need to approach it from the top down and so when clinical who is very important in needed in this industry, we don’t have an industry without them. Is handling the body up and behavioral is handing the mind down. We meet in the middle of this beautiful little diamond and everyone’s taken care of on a holistic level. We talk about heuristic practices. We talk about being able to give an all encompassing care plan when people move into senior communities or when you’re taking care of your loved one they say you don’t make sure it’s well rounded and balanced right like what does that mean? And so because there’s no standards, I mean some skilled nursing facilities the standard of activities by the state is forty five minutes of engagement a day.Forty five minutes, and that includes doing the crossword puzzle on the back of the daily news bulletin. And like that just ain’t it. We can do more and so for me, I hear you be like, my mom remembered me as the one who is going to do something fun. You were doing it right. You being a creative, you looked at it as a creative problem with a creative solution and not everybody thinks like you and me. And one of the problems I always had and my mentor Tracy Reich who was my first activity coordinators. She works for senior lifestyle now, she worked with me at Lexington. She told me I love what you do, put it in a box so other people can do it too. And that was like nine years of like eight or nine years ago and I was like, how do I put me in a box, that was the worst sentence you could ever tell me. I realizeed she wasn’t saying you go in the box,  she meant take all of the things you do put in the box and make it teachable. So that’s what we’ve done. 

We’ve come up with the Make Grandma Smile engagement curriculum, and the idea behind it is that someone like you and me could turn it into a business and be a recreational therapist style position, life enrichment coordinators, engagement specialists, that sort of thing. Or the person at home taking care of their loved one could have their own activity program to run at home that allowed them both time off from focusing on the left things one hundred percent because it had engaging things that kept the let one busy. Had tools provided for you in what we call the Make Grandma Smile go bag and has a standardized yearly calendar that allows you to follow it that follows along with digital content that gives you how to’s. So you don’t have to be the expert, you can just be the facilitator of fun. So you’re loved one looks at you thinks you’re the coolest and you never have to run out of ideas, and so that’s that’s what we’re building. We’re  building this idea that anyone who wants to take care of their loved one as their aging or dealing with Alzheimer’s can and no longer have to ask how it’s now what.

(Jennifer)

 That would have been nice because there was a lot of Sunday evening as my husband would say, what are you gonna do with mom tomorrow? And I’d be like oh God I don’t know because I like variety . I don’t watch reruns, I don’t reread books, I do eat leftovers that’s fine but everything else has to be new and different. I’m gonna let these guys in – it’s Ginsy. She is a past guest and she is also an author of several books.

00:25:02 – 00:30:04

(Jason)

Oh, cool. Welcome.

(Ginsy)

Thank you.

(Jennifer)

So, we were just talking about activities and how on Sunday nights I would be like trying to figure out what to do with my mom and her abilities were less and less. And my need for different was not less and it was just a big challenge.

(Jason)

So just to catch you up Ginsy, you know one of the one of the thoughts that Make Grandma Smile has you might have heard in the industry like a senior citizen doesn’t care about anything twenty twenty and I disagree because I show my residents America’s got talent. We watch new episodes every week. Every time they wanna know who wins and they want to see that golden buzzer pressed and they’re crying their eyes out. And they leave talking about it at lunch like they were there, you know what I mean. 

(Ginsy)

Yeah absolutely!

(Jason)

 And we flip it because it’s never just a watching thing. I think one of the things that family members always have and are worried about too is that their loved ones are just in front of television and I agree. Just sitting and watching television isn’t great. I binge watch netflix too but  changing something from a passive to an active engagement is the key. I was able to watch an entire old Christmas movie in black and white with seniors and they paid attention and ninety percent of the time I’ll give some of them eighty. Because I would pause and ask them questions about the movie, not even the characters or even the actors, sometimes situational. She’s really upset why she set I must have missed something and they’re like, well, he was you know she said she loved him and basically he didn’t say anything back. Oh okay okay. 

They were paying attention and I just proved it you know. And so for me, it’s about changing that passive engagement where I’m reading from a book and turning it into a game hour, which is what we’re gonna do a little bit. And so like you know we could turn anything into a game if it’s repeatable and if it’s repeatable and uses their existing abilities, you can maximize function. We tested this in three communities with a group of ten and to be able to see a bunch of residents who I was told that they like to do things, actually participate in grand scale activities and contests and competitions was super awarding. So that’s where we stopped before you joined us Ginsy.  Hi Christina

(Jennifer)

And now, we have France Bowman and Christina, who is a retired educator so she’s kind of adjacent to what you’re doing and she was actually the counselor for my daughter when my daughter was in high school, which was several years ago.And Fran Bowmen, she does tutoring forchildren, she also does tutoring for incarcerated juvenile’s. She is the past president of our Rotary Club here in Brentwood. 

(Jason)

So thank you for coming ladies. 

(Fran)

You’re very welcome. I’m a little bit nervous about the whole thing. 

(Jason)

 It’ll be easy.Listen if I get a bunch of sixty to eighty year olds to do this and do it well, and competitively, I can have a bunch of young broads like you figure it out. We’ll be good.

(Bran)

 I think he’s to a great start calling us young broads. Wait, describe us again, did you say young? Say that again.

(Jason)

I mean listen, I hang out with one hundred and one year olds on a regular basis. Oh, we’re all young honey. We’re all our prime right now you know what I mean live it up. living. Is still got jiggle here in a good way

(Jennifer)

You know my grandmother’s one hundred and two. 

(Jason)

Wow good for her! She won, this is bonus miles.

(Jennifer)

Forsure! We’re gonna pause for a second and get the game set up, and then we will be right back in just a moment.

(Intermission) 

(Jason) 

 Growing up I love nicknames. I have been known as the guy with the hat for almost a decade. And Half of it is out of necessity but the other half is because I found a job working senior citizens and doing performing arts. When you work with senior citizens they remember you for very specific things. Like the guy whose shirt is always wrinkled or the guy who’s always a little too loud.About nine years ago I met Margaret NC help. She was the inventor,  she always said God’s tool to create the beehive hairdo. It’s an iconic piece everybody from Barbra Streisand to Audrey Hepburn had it and wanted it.

00:30:05 – 00:35:00

She made it. That’s not where it stopped. Margaret lived a life that just took her everywhere, all over the world for different awards shows, education seminars because she understood how important it was to spend everyday learning something new. And when I met her, Margaret was ninety five. And in her words, probably getting ready to go see God my son. I always loved Margaret because she was real about it. Upfront. Now, ninety five years old and lives in a senior community seeing the world, what else is there to do. Be An actress of course. She heard that we were doing drama club and that there was a chance for her to be in a play. And she literally willed herself to feeling better,getting out of bed, and showing them for rehearsal. On that day I took over the group for another person and. on that day mine and Margaret’s life change forever. 

Because, throughout the three years that I got to work with Margaret I figured out that it wasn’t about entertaining people, it was about engaging. How can we engage each other and the world better? Every day Margaret would walk through the halls like she owned the place. That you belong there too. So let’s go out into our world. Let’s go act like we belong. And let’s make sure everyone else does too. For Margaret’s sake. My name is Jason Heidel, and this is why I make grandma smile. 

(Jennier)

We’re back with Jason, and now we have three other guests because we are going to play password in a way similar to what Jason does with his residence. So I first up is Gins, you guys and remember her she is a past guest, and then we have Fran Bowman. Who is a resident here in Brentwood where I live ,she’s also in my Rotary Club. You’ve heard me talk that she’s a past president of a Rotary Club. She’s a tutor for juveniles and she has lots of great things and then we have Christina who was the high school counselor when my daughter was in high school. Which we’re just gonna pretend was a couple of years ago and Christina just told us that she feels she might have a predisposition to Alzheimer’s. So she’s very interested in continued learning and Jason was telling her about Neuroplasticity. So why don’t you guys all say hello before we get started.

(Jason)

Hello.

(Ginsy)

Hi.

(Christina)

Hello.

(Jason) 

It’s a little hard on zoom with the delay. Jen, you mind if I take it over from here for the game? 

(Jennifer)

Go for it! 

(Jason)

Thank you so much ladies and those watching, welcome to game show.My name is Jason and I’m with Make Grandma Smile. And we are going to play password.Password is a simple game of words and word clues with two people on each team will take turns giveing each other clues to try and get them to say the secret password. You can say the same word you can’t say the same word more than once you think it’s a good clue.But, you cannot say a word that has the clue in it Also, we are going to have the honor system tonight, we don’t have our official Make Grandma Smile blindfolds, but we are going to have our eyes covered for those not a guessing and I’m going to be presenting the words on my phone. So we are going to start off, why dont I have Jennifer and Ginsy. Why do you guys cover your eyes. And Fran and Christina I’m going to show your first word. And the word is – Don’t say it, don’t say it. Everyone always read it out loud that I’m like, okay. Next word, okay you got your words ladies?

(Christina & Fran) 

Got it! 

(Jason)

All right, Jennifer and Ginsy go ahead pull your hands down. Fran I’m holding a number between one and five below the computer. What number is it? 

(Fran)

Four.

(Jason)

 Four? Christina what is it? 

(Christina)

Two. 

(Jason)

Christina got it, its two. Christina you’re going to give the clue first. Go ahead and give Ginsy your one word clue. 

(Christina)

Shopping.

(Jason)

 Shopping Center, I see where you’re going. Fran your turn.

(Fran)

 Stone Ridge Mall. 

(Jason)

I’m gonna assume that is a proper name so we’re going to let it slide.But we got it.

(Fran)

Oh we can’t use proper names? 

00:35:00 – 00:40:03

(Jason)

No you can, Ellen never follows the rules. Especially, when Betty White was on, my god. He let it slide for his soon-to-be and then later wife. Very good! Fran with the first point.Fran and Christina go ahead and cover your eyes and Jennifer and Ginsy your word is this.Got it?

(Jennifer)

Hmm huh. 

(Jason)

 Go ahead and cover your eyes. And I believe Christina went first last time so team one goes first. Jennifer go ahead and give your clue.

(Jennifer)

 It’s exercise class. 

(Jason)

Exercise class, go ahead Ginsy. 

(Ginsy)

Run. 

(Christina)

Jog.

(Jason)

 Jog is the word, one to one on both sides. Excellent job! Great word, we got a tied game. We’ll do a couple more words, this is  flying. Can I tell you, you guys are already doing better than people probably only ten years younger than you in their thirties so… wait cover your eyes.  Okay you ready Christina and Fran, this is your word. Got it? All right ladies please un cover your eyes. And I believe Christina you go first again.

(Christina)

 Fighting. 

(Fran)

Boxing.

(Jason)

 Boxing it is! That is number two, team one team taking the lead here. Christina and Fran Cover your eyes. Jennifer and Ginsy here is your new word. Got it?

(Ginsy)

Yes.

(Jason

All right. Go ahead and uncover your eyes ladies and I believe Jennifer it’s your word. 

(Jennifer)

Hybrid.

(Fran)

 Hybrid Car. 

(Jason)

Ginsy?

(Ginsy)

Search. 

(Christina)

Engine. 

(Jasson)

Thats three for team two. That was a real nice one,I did not see search engine coming. Corvette I was expecting live Corvette.

(Fran)

Its the mental telepathy thing we got going on. 

(Jason)

Well let me tell ya, if you watch the past episodes of password some of them they got that and some of them got on television. What we do with the residence, a quick pause, we actually watched the old episodes and play along to practice. So we pause when the word pops up and then we see how many words we can come up with and as the resident hears their word said by the celebrity on television you remind them. Hey Janice she’s got your word and they all like oh yeah I did it. Alright, cool! Right, and so it’s that padded success we were talking about before you know you wanna make it so they can win even at a little level. Everybody’s doing great, team two you’re doing especially great. I believe, cover your eyes, Ginsy and Jen. And Christina and Fran this is your new word.Got it?. All right ladies, lower your hands. And I believe it is Christina’s turn right?

(Jennifer)

 I think, so yes,

(Christina)

 Flintstones.

(Ginsly)

 Rubble.

(Jason)

 Rubble, no. Not The words you’re looking for a good good clue though. Fran?

(Fran)

Flunker.

(Jennifer)

Well its one word, right? 

(Jason)

I only know what it is because of context. 

(Jennifer)

It’ll be rocks.

(Jason)

 Not Rocks, it’s not boulders.Christina? 

(Christina)

Hole.

(Ginsy)

Quarry.

(Jason)

 Quarry is not the correct word, we’re looking for, Miss Fran? 

(Fran)

Underground. 

(Jennifer)

Cave.

(Jason)

Cave! There it is, team one with two points. We have a score two to three. Excellent work we’re going to go two more so team two if you get this, you’ve won. Team one if you get the next one, you have a chance to tie the game and then go for the final round.

00:40:03 – 00:45:14

Okay. The winning team will do a lightning round and the prize will be my admiration. Okay, let’s get your next word. Your next word is…. Okay Now remember we’re gonna have fun with it. Jen you’ve got it.

(Jennifer)

Okey Dokey, so we have a election.

(Fran)

 Primary. 

(Jason)

 Oh no! Okay, miss Ginsy you can win the game right now.

(Ginsy)

 Final. 

(Christina)

Draft. 

(Jason)

Jen?

(Jennifer)

Military. 

(Fran)

General.

(Jason)

There it is! All right. You’re still in the game team one, tied game three to three. We are gonna go to our final word.This one’s gonna be a doozy. Fran and Christina here is your final word. Right, go ahead ladies, drop your hands. And I believe Christina, you’ve got the first take.

(Christina)

There’s two way I can go, let’s see. Dash. 

(Ginsly)

Sprint. 

(Jason)

Sprint yes but no. Fran go ahead.

(Fran)

 Nuts.

(Jennifer)

 I’m thinking bolts that doesn’t go. 

(Jason)

Oh my gosh! Thats a form of the word but I need the proper form. You said bolts, I need the proper form. 

(Jennifer)

Bolt.

(Jason)

I gotta give it to them. The comeback kids Jennifer.

(Jennifer)

 Dash goes with bolt.

(Jason)

Yeah, this is why I host. Thank you so much for being a part of this, did you have fun?Could you see how this could be fun for seniors? And that’s the point is that it doesn’t have to be this hard and I know other people can do this in the community and we tell them they should. We believe that this is a game you should do right now. But how cool to have someone who actually was on television, knows how to host a game show, and make it feel like the real password and when we do it, we have real graphics come across the screen and we interact with you. There’s a timer and we’re talking to you and so that breaks that fourth wall down no longer you just watching something you’re a part of something. That’s what Make Grandma Smile is all about. 

(Christina)

Very cool. 

(Fran)

Very nice.

(Jason)

 Thank you so much, a big applause for our winners Jennifer and Fran.

(Jennifer)

You guys have questions for Jason, before we sign off? 

(Christina)

I think what you’re doing is really exciting. Thank you for including me.

(Fran)

 Yeah it’s great. I love it, I’m going to definitely go checkout your website. 

(Jason)

Yeah, please do share it. Our Indie Gogo Campaign is upright. Now we are looking to crowd fund for the start of the streaming service. You know there’s five point five million Americans with Alzheimer’s, if everybody who knew somebody gives the buck, we’d be good. And not for us not even salaries just get the thing up and running and make sure it’s out there in the world. I’ve worked with communities that have fifty dollars for one hundred residents for an entire month of activities. And you know that they never get entertainment but with our streaming service, they’re gonna get live concerts streamed straight to them for motown and classic standards and swaying and and we’re partnering with venues that are going to host those types of shows and other content creators. Make Grandpa Smile.com,  we own that as well, and that’ll be a portal for men and for the things that men want to learn about and still do as the age and get older and and so you know we really believe that we can help create a way that everyone can engage the world better. Whether you’re nine or ninety nine but prepare yourself for that ninety nine and hopefully give yourself a leg up to get there. 

(Christina)

 Jennifer, send us the link, okay?

(Jennifer)

Okay. I will definitely do that.

(Ginsy)

So then I do have a question based on just said. So are you saying that this is more geared towards women than the men? No. Just that we know that there’s a calling right now needed for the men, when you go into like a senior community and they have what’s called like an interactive portal that has content for seniors, it tends to lend itself towards women.

00:45:15 – 00:48:11

And so we just have a very specific initiative called Make Grandpa Smile.com. So as not to forget two point, wo, million of male of Americans who have Alzheimer’s in America and specifically focused on making activities interesting for them. Because often I can’t get the guys to always come to the activities in a community that I can get the women, but I can almost always get the women. You know what I mean and given a male. So  a pretty girl might have a better chance getting the guys, but the point is that it shouldn’t be like that it should easier because the activities and the content that’s available covers everybody and not just like a white female in her nineties.

Like there’s just so much more we do what’s called a DNA, a decade neural plasticity analysis, and so what we’re doing is we’re basically figuring out what content are residents in a group of ten know based on decades. So we show them all the greatest things. From the fifties, the forties, the sixties seventies,and the seventies and we figure out where their cutoff is as a group on an average and I’m able to tailor the content down into a focus. So again, these are all things that we can teach people to do from home and know your loved one better and work with them better.And we even believe in like this little small group model that we’re talking about called the rampod where ten families, like you guys, who have loved ones who might need help with this could just meet and be a small group same like you have at a church but you’re building your lives together in the Alzheimer’s Realm. Now I get that it becomes hard as people fall out because their loved passes and they wanna get on with their life and so there is some like almost AA or rotary club style like I’m a member type of thing needed to be there you know. Like  Jennifer, she made her mission hasn’t stopped what I mean and so for me, it’s finding more Jennifers and more people like you all who she’s found and bringing them back into the fold. Like we’ve been through it, we’ve been there. How can we make it easier for those who are in it now ’cause Alzheimer’s is bad but living with it doesn’t have to be. So that’s what we want to change. 

(Fran)

Right. Wonderful. There’s a huge need. So thank you. 

(Jason)

Thank you for listening. Share it on, MakeGrandmaSmile.com.

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